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December 4, 2025

Episode 220: Inside the 2025 Bank Reg U-Turn

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It’s safe to say 2025 has marked a dramatic change from the Biden-era bank regulatory agenda. The Trump-appointed regulators are talking about rethinking supervision, capital, and the Fed’s entire approach to liquidity. What does this mean for banks and the system overall? Karen Shaw Petrou, managing director of Federal Financial Analytics, breaks it down.

November 19, 2025

Episode 219: Is this the End of the CFPB?

CFPB
Bank Regulation
Lending

The Trump administration is refusing to take funds to pay for ongoing operations at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, arguing the funding structure is illegal. What does this mean for the agency's future, including its recent efforts to curb the small business lending data rule and define open banking? Kate Berry of American Banker and Evan Weinberger of Bloomberg Law weigh in on what's going on and what happens next.

November 5, 2025

Episode 218: As Crypto Talks Heat Up Again, Can Congress Cut a Deal?

Bank Regulation
Crypto
Stablecoins

Senate negotiators have started talking again on a crypto market structure bill after a breakdown in discussions earlier this year. Does the bill have momentum? Brendan Pedersen, the financial services reporter for Punchbowl News, breaks down the latest around the legislation, what it means for banks, and whether bank efforts to close loopholes around stablecoins paying interest have a chance of passage.

October 22, 2025

Episode 217: Why Gutting the CDFI Fund Hurts Banks, Communities

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As the government shutdown drags on, the Treasury Department fired the entire staff of the CDFI Fund, a program with substantial bipartisan support. Dennis Ammann, CEO of People's Bank, a CDFI in Mississippi, and Jeannine Jacokes, CEO of the Community Development Bankers Association, discuss the impact on CDFIs nationwide and why it has alarmed lawmakers on both sides of the aisle.

October 8, 2025

Episode 216: The Battle Over the Fed’s Future

Bank Regulation
Bank Policy
Federal Reserve
Stablecoins
Crypto

Aaron Klein, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, explains how the Supreme Court is likely to react to President Trump’s efforts to fire Fed Gov. Lisa Cook, and what it means for the central bank’s future as well as monetary policy. Klein also details how crypto is fighting banks’ attempt to prevent stablecoins from paying interest or rewards.

September 25, 2025

Episode 215: HFSC Chair Hill on Agenda, Crypto, Fraud & Housing

Bank Policy
Bank Regulation
Community Banks
Fraud
Housing

More than two dozen bills dedicated to Making Community Banks Great Again have passed House Financial Services Committee. Panel Chair French Hill handicaps which will have the most impact and what is most likely to be enacted. He also discusses the latest on the crypto market structure bill, how regulators can help banks in the fight against fraud, where the payments sector will be in five years, why he wants to end the Fed’s dual mandate, the prospects for housing legislation and unfinished business after the fall of SVB in 2023.

September 9, 2025

Episode 214: Anchorage Digital: Inside the First Crypto Bank

Bank Regulation
Crypto
Digital Currency
OCC

Nathan McCauley, Cofounder and CEO of Anchorage Digital, discusses how his institution obtained the first OCC digital trust charter five years ago, how it has changed his business, and why other crypto firms are rushing to apply for the same charter now. He also discusses stablecoins vs. crypto, and the changing attitudes around debanking.

July 29, 2025

Episode 213: Stablecoins, Tokenized Deposits and the Race to Win the Future of Money

Stablecoins
Crypto
Digital Currency

Alex Johnson, founder and publisher of FinTech Takes, sorts through what happens now that Congress has passed a new law to regulate stablecoins. Will stablecoins take over finance, and if so, are they a bigger threat to banks or money market mutual funds? What are the use cases for stablecoins vs. tokenized deposits? Can big banks beat stablecoin issuers at their own game?

July 22, 2025

Episode 212: What the Fight Over Fed’s Powell is Really About

Bank Regulation
Federal Reserve
Interest Rates
Inflation

Victoria Guida, economics correspondent and columnist for Politico, talks about President Trump’s reported decision – and then quick reversal – of a move last week to oust Jerome Powell as chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. She goes behind the scenes on what the president is telling allies, how GOP lawmakers view the situation, and why firing Powell might not solve Trump’s central concerns.

July 9, 2025

Episode 211: Why Crypto Firms Are Lining Up to Charter Banks

Crypto
Bank Regulation

Crypto firms often pitch themselves as an alternative to and the future of traditional finance. So why are firms like Ripple, Circle, Wise and Erebor attempting to charter banks? Penny Crosman, executive editor for technology at American Banker, talks about what's going on, how regulators will view these applications, and whether banks plan to fight back.

June 24, 2025

Episode 210: A Backdoor Way to Merge Bank Regulators?

Bank Regulation
Stablecoins

Todd Phillips, assistant professor at Georgia State University’s Robinson College of Business, discusses the latest attempt to merge bank regulatory agencies and what that means for efforts in this area. He also discusses reported discussions by Walmart and Amazon to start stablecoins, and the potential impact on banks.

June 17, 2025

Episode 209: You Say You Want a (Global Payments) Revolution

Artificial Intelligence
Stablecoins

Tom Halpin, the regional head of North America Global Payment Solutions for HSBC, talks about how AI and new technologies are changing domestic and global payments—and what that means both for his bank and the industry. He also tackles where AI can help (or hurt), the status of the FedNow roll out, and concerns around CBDCs and stablecoins.

June 4, 2025

Episode 208: Are Banks Really Ready for AI?

Bank Regulation
Artificial Intelligence

Kiah Haslett, banking and fintech editor for Bank Director and FinXTech, talks about how Wall Street giants like Bank of America and community-focused lenders are training their teams to be savvy AI users. She also shares insights about an upcoming FinXTech report on why community banks need a comprehensive data strategy, and federal regulators’ decision to abandon reputation risk as a potential threat to banks.

May 20, 2025

Episode 207: After a Fraud, this Bank Refused to Give Her Money Back. Now She’s the CEO.

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While serving in the Oklahoma National Guard, Jill Castilla returned home to find a family member had stolen her money. The bank refused to give her the money back. Decades later, she now leads that bank, Citizens Bank of Edmond, and has used it to launch a digital bank aimed at servicemembers to ensure others don’t suffer the same fate. She also talks about the policy challenges facing community banks right now, how to fix them, and why she remains optimistic about the future.

May 14, 2025

Episode 206: Politico's Sutton on China Tariff Deal, Behind the Scenes at Milken

Bank Regulation

Sam Sutton, the author of Politico's Morning Money, discusses the impact of the Trump Administration's recent deal to reduce tariffs on China, and what Wall Street and bankers were worried about — publicly and privately — at last week's Milken Institute gathering.

May 6, 2025

Episode 205: Inside Dems Surprising Turn Against the Stablecoin Bill

Stablecoins
Bank Regulation
CFPB

Brendan Pedersen, author of Punchbowl News’ The Vault, talks about why key Democrats withdrew support for a bill to regulate stablecoins, how House Financial Services Committee GOP are targeting CFPB, and why an effort to overturn the medical debt rule appears to have failed for now.

April 29, 2025

Episode 204: Is This the End of the Fed and CFPB As We Know Them?

Bank Regulation
Federal Reserve
CFPB

President Trump is flirting with the idea of firing Fed Chairman Jerome Powell while the administration is attempting to lay off 90% of the CFPB’s employees. John Heltman, Washington bureau chief of American Banker, and Kate Berry, the paper’s consumer reporter, discuss what’s next for these two agencies.

April 16, 2025

Episode 203: How Tariffs Impact Banks, Bessent’s Ambitious Agenda & Stablecoin Fears

Bank Policy
Bank Regulation
Stablecoins

Jaret Seiberg, managing director at TD Cowen, talks about how the uncertain economic environment—and changing policies regarding tariffs—are impacting banks large and small. He also tackles Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s bank regulatory agenda, whether the Trump administration can successfully accomplish GSE reform and the significant risks to banks from stablecoin legislation.

April 8, 2025

Episode 202: Why State Regulators Are Worried About Stablecoin Legislation

Bank Regulation
Bank Policy
Stablecoins

Brandon Milhorn, the CEO of the Conference of State Bank Supervisors, details his concerns about bills fast-tracked in Congress that would give regulatory guardrails for stablecoins. The state regulators he represents say it would open the door to mixing banking and commerce, disintermediate banks and give too much power to the federal government.

April 2, 2025

Episode 201: What the Hell Is Going on with the GSEs?

Bank Policy
Bank Regulation
Mortgages

Katy O’Donnell, the financial services reporter for Politico, dives into a series of surprising moves by new FHFA Director Bill Pulte, including firing the CEO of Freddie Mac, appointing himself chair of both GSEs, and cutting programs.

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